What almost every school agrees on
- Hasten the funeral and burial. A short wait for close family is fine.
- Stand at the grave after burial and ask Allah to forgive the deceased and keep them firm.
- Give charity, make du'a, and pay their debts on their behalf. All of this reaches them.
- Neighbours and relatives cook for the grieving family, not the other way round.
- Offer condolences, ideally within the first three days.
Where schools differ: Quran khatam gatherings, talqin, and dated gatherings on the 3rd or 40th day. The two guides below show who holds what, with sources.
Research compiled by Coach Zubair, October 2026. Prefer to read it with the Urdu alongside? Open the bilingual (English and Urdu) PDF.
1. Overview and comparison
All four schools agree on the core: bury quickly, make du'a at the grave, give charity for the deceased, and have neighbours feed the bereaved family. They split on fixed days (3rd and 40th), group Quran khatam, and the family hosting meals. "Hanafi" is covered here as two streams, Deobandi and Barelvi (Ahl-e-Sunnat wa Jama'at), alongside Ahl al-Hadith and the Shafi'i school.
| Issue | Ahl al-Hadith | Hanafi: Deobandi | Hanafi: Barelvi | Shafi'i |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Delay burial | Not permitted beyond a short customary wait | Makruh; brief wait OK | Makruh; brief wait OK | Hasten; wait only for the wali, not for a bigger crowd |
| Du'a at grave after burial | Sunnah (individual) | Sunnah | Sunnah | Sunnah |
| Talqin after burial | Bid'ah (weak hadith) | Not required | Permissible | Mustahab |
| Adhan at grave | Bid'ah | Bid'ah | Jaiz, mustahsan | Rejected by Haytami as bid'ah |
| Reward of Quran reaches the dead | Split: Ibn Baz no, Ibn Uthaymin yes | Yes, individually | Yes | Yes (per Nawawi) |
| Group khatam / Quran khwani | Bid'ah | Makruh / bid'ah as custom | Jaiz, encouraged (on general evidence, not a specific Sunnah) | Gathering praised; fixing a day as required is bid'ah |
| Charity for the deceased | Reaches, recommended | Reaches, recommended | Reaches, recommended | Reaches, recommended |
| Neighbours feed the family | Sunnah | Sunnah | Sunnah | Sunnah |
| Family hosts a meal for visitors | Bid'ah once lavish; no food at a sitting | Makruh / bid'ah | First 3 days: bid'ah, the wealthy may not eat | Bid'ah ghayr mustahsana |
| Sitting at home to receive condolences | OK if free of wrong acts, no food | Up to 3 days, no feeding burden | Best not; 3 days tolerated; after that makruh tanzihi | Makruh |
| Ta'ziyah period | No fixed limit | 3 days, once | 3 days; after that makruh tanzihi | 3 days |
| Teeja / soyem / chaliswan gathering | Bid'ah | Bid'ah | Permissible, at most mustahab, if not believed obligatory (a permission, not from the Sunnah) | Family feast condemned; fixed-day gatherings disputed |
2. Delaying the funeral and burial
All four schools say: hasten. The Prophet ﷺ said "Hasten the burial rites" (Bukhari and Muslim, via SeekersGuidance). Hanafis (Deobandi and Barelvi) call needless delay makruh, but allow a short wait so more people can pray or a close relative can arrive. The Shafi'i school allows a delay only for the wali to arrive, and only if no change in the body is feared; it does not allow delaying to gather more worshippers (Mukhtasar Tuhfat al-Muhtaj). The Saudi Permanent Committee (Ahl al-Hadith line) permits nothing beyond preparing the body and a short wait for relatives judged by local custom (IslamQA 12386). Delays caused by law, autopsy or permits are excused by all (AskImam: freezer delay).
Bury as soon as the paperwork allows. Waiting a few hours for close family is fine; waiting days is not.
3. After burial: du'a, talqin, adhan
Everyone agrees on standing at the grave after burial and asking forgiveness and steadfastness for the deceased, per the hadith "Seek forgiveness for your brother, for he is now being questioned" (Permanent Committee, IslamQA). Deoband adds that reciting the opening of al-Baqarah at the head and its end at the feet is afdal, while talqin is "not necessary" (Deoband fatwa 135/1433).
The Shafi'i school holds post-burial talqin mustahab: Nawawi records that many of al-Shafi'i's companions said so, and Ibn al-Salah gave a fatwa to that effect (al-Adhkar, via Darul Fatwa Australia); Hanafi texts allow it (Ibn Abidin: "there is no prohibition on talqin"), and Barelvi practice follows that. Ahl al-Hadith reject it as a bid'ah built on a very weak Tabarani report (Ghulam Mustafa Zaheer Amanpuri).
Adhan at the grave is "jaiz o mustahsan" for Barelvis (Dawat-e-Islami), a bid'ah for Deobandis (Imdad al-Fatawa of Ashraf Ali Thanvi, via deoband.org) and Ahl al-Hadith, and rejected by Ibn Hajar al-Haytami for the Shafi'is (Daruliftaa). A collective raised-hands du'a right after the janazah prayer is called bid'ah by the Saudi Permanent Committee (Ahl al-Hadith view).
Stay at the grave after burial and ask Allah to forgive them and keep them firm. Talqin and adhan are disputed, so follow your local imam and don't argue about it at the graveside.
4. Quran khatam for the deceased
The sharpest split is here. Barelvis treat Quran khwani, dhikr and na'at gatherings as a commendable form of isal-e-sawab (Dawat-e-Islami, Farz Uloom). Deoband accepts that recitation reaches the dead, but calls the customary group khwani makruh and advises each person to recite alone "without fixing a date and time" (Deoband fatwa 1148/1429). Hanafi fatawa also rule paid recitation impermissible (Marghoob al-Fatawa).
In the Shafi'i school, Nawawi records from al-Shafi'i and his companions that reciting some Quran at the grave is mustahab, and the school holds that recitation with du'a reaches the deceased (al-Adhkar, via Darul Fatwa Australia); a gathering to recite is fine, but tying it to the 3rd, 7th or 40th day is bid'ah (SeekersGuidance). Ahl al-Hadith hold that Quran khwani has no shar'i proof and is bid'ah; the Permanent Committee and Ibn Baz add that recitation's reward does not reach the dead, while du'a and charity do. Ibn Taymiyyah and Ibn Uthaymin held that it does reach, so the Salafi camp is split on this point (Amanpuri, Mohaddis Forum; Permanent Committee).
Reciting Quran yourself and asking Allah to give the reward to the deceased is accepted by most schools. Avoid paid recitation, and don't treat a fixed-day khatam as required.
5. Charity (sadaqah) on behalf of the deceased
This is the one area of full agreement: charity, du'a, Hajj or Umrah, and paying the deceased's debts benefit them. The evidence includes Sa'd ibn 'Ubadah giving his garden in charity for his late mother with the Prophet's approval (Bukhari 2756), and the well he dug for her (Dawat-e-Islami). Deoband: "There is no specified day, date and method for isal-e-sawab"; give to the poor in the manner Shariah prescribes (Deoband fatwa 1278/1434). Barelvis agree no day is required, but hold that fixing one for convenience is not forbidden. Ahl al-Hadith and the Permanent Committee prefer quiet cash charity over meals (IslamQA 220923).
One shared caution: nothing may be spent from the estate before debts are paid, and minors' or absent heirs' shares may never be used, even with a guardian's consent (Dar al-Ifta Ahl-e-Sunnat Pin-6195; SeekersGuidance, Shafi'i).
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Give in their name on any day. Pay their debts first, and never spend a minor's or absent heir's share of the estate.
6. Food for the bereaved family and for visitors
All schools agree that neighbours and relatives should feed the bereaved family, from the hadith "Make food for the family of Ja'far, for something has come to them that preoccupies them" (Tirmidhi 998, Abu Dawud 3132). They also agree, from Jarir ibn 'Abdullah's report, that the Companions counted gathering at the family's house and the family cooking for people as a form of wailing (niyahah) (Ibn Majah 1612; Ahmad 6905 adds "after the burial"; IslamQA 220923).
Shafi'i: Nawawi calls the family's feast "an innovation that is not approved of" and Haytami calls it, and accepting the invitation, a reprehensible innovation; feeding those who helped with burial and guests from afar is allowed (SeekersGuidance). Deobandi: Ibn al-Humam calls the family's hospitality makruh since feasts suit joy, not grief; attending such meals on fixed days and eating there is impermissible (Banuri Town 144207201162). Barelvi: a feast during the first three days is "najaiz o mamnu' aur bid'at-e-sayyi'ah o qabihah" and the wealthy may not eat it; later isal-e-sawab food (10th, 40th) is allowed, preferably for the poor (Mufti Qasim Attari, Pin-6659). Ahl al-Hadith / Salafi: relatives and neighbours cook for the family, which is sunnah; the family hosting people turns into bid'ah once it becomes lavish display, as al-Suyuti noted (IslamQA Urdu 213425); Ibn Baz allows a sitting for condolence only if the family provides no food (IslamQA 215016).
Neighbours and relatives cook for the family. If you are the family, don't host a meal for visitors; feeding guests who travelled and are staying with you is fine.
7. Three-day condolence, teeja/soyem and the 40th day
Three days is the agreed window for ta'ziyah and for mourning (except a widow's 'iddah), from the hadith "A woman may not mourn anyone beyond three days except her husband" (Bukhari 1280, Muslim 1486). All four schools hold condolence runs from death until three days after burial, with an exception for someone who was away or unaware (Dorar).
Hanafi: condolence is mustahab once, ideally right after burial; repeating it is makruh (Jamia Mahmoodiyah, citing Radd al-Muhtar 3/147-149). Barelvi fatawa say the first day is best (Fatawa Razawiyyah 9/359) and after three days it is makruh tanzihi for those who were present (Dar al-Ifta Ahl-e-Sunnat; Mukhtasar Fatawa Ahl-e-Sunnat p. 77, via Dawat-e-Islami). Ahl al-Hadith / Salafi: condolence has no fixed limit, though mourning does (Ibn Baz).
On the fixed-day rites: Deoband calls teeja, daswan, chaliswan and barsi bid'ah and attendance impermissible (Kitab al-Nawazil 1/607); Jamia Binoria says the same (fatwa 233241). Ahl al-Hadith rule the chaliswan and "Thursday bread" bid'ah (Fatawa 'Ilmiyyah 1/515, Zubair Ali Zai). Classical Shafi'i texts condemn the family's feast (Tuhfat al-Muhtaj; I'anat al-Talibin), but Shafi'i scholars differ on fixed-day gatherings: many in Southeast Asia hold tahlilan on the 3rd, 7th and 40th days, while a widely cited answer calls fixing a day a bid'ah only if it is treated as religiously required (SeekersGuidance). Barelvis permit teeja and chehlum as isal-e-sawab, provided no one believes the day is obligatory: "ta'yin shar'an mana' nahin" (specifying a day is not forbidden). This is a permission, not a Sunnah: no report shows the Prophet ﷺ or the Companions keeping these days (Dawat-e-Islami).
Offer condolences within three days if you can; once is enough. Don't build the family's calendar around the 3rd or 40th day.
8. Holding a visitation after 3 or 40 days and serving food
Two separate questions are bundled here: may the family sit at home to receive visitors, and may they announce a gathering on a later date and feed people.
Sitting to receive condolences: the Shafi'i school dislikes it even without weeping, because it renews grief and burdens the family; Nawawi applies this to men and women alike. Hanafi texts allow sitting at home for three days provided the family is not burdened with feeding visitors (Ibn Nujaym, al-Bahr al-Ra'iq); Dar al-Ifta Ahl-e-Sunnat says it is best not to sit at all, sitting up to three days is tolerated, and sitting after the third day is makruh tanzihi (Mukhtasar Fatawa Ahl-e-Sunnat p. 77). Ibn Baz and Ibn Uthaymin allow a gathering free of wrong acts, with no food from the family (IslamQA 215016).
A dated visitation on day 3 or 40 with food: Deobandi and Ahl al-Hadith muftis treat this as the innovated "ma'tam" gathering, and classical Shafi'i texts condemn the family's feast; Darul Iftaa Trinidad under Mufti Ebrahim Desai calls the 3-day, 40-day and annual gatherings baseless bid'ah, says feasting suits joy not mourning, and advises giving the money to the poor instead (fatwa-tt 134268). Barelvi fatawa permit a chehlum or later gathering with isal-e-sawab food for the poor, as long as the day is not held obligatory and the first three days carry no feast (Pin-6659); Egypt's Dar al-Ifta likewise sees no harm in a 40th-day or anniversary gathering for Quran and feeding (Dar al-Ifta Urdu 20031).
Practical common ground for a Canadian community: condolences in the first three days, no announced later date, and food organised by neighbours or given to the needy.
Visit, keep it short, and don't expect food. If you want to mark the 40th day, give the money to people in need instead of holding a gathering.
9. Is it Sunnah, or the practice of our elders?
People often assume their family's customs come from the Sunnah because their scholars approve of them. It helps to separate three things: what the Prophet ﷺ did or taught, what scholars derive from general principles, and what is simply local custom.
None of these schools claims the 3rd, 10th or 40th day, Thursdays or the anniversary come from the Sunnah. No hadith sets those days.
Barelvi: they permit fixed-day isal-e-sawab not because the day is Sunnah, but because isal-e-sawab itself is established (the well Sa'd ibn 'Ubadah dug for his mother) and because, in their view, choosing a convenient day is not forbidden: "ta'yin shar'an mana' nahin" (Dawat-e-Islami). The days themselves come from custom ('urf). The standard Barelvi defence, Mufti Ahmad Yar Khan Na'eemi's Ja' al-Haqq, places teeja, daswan and chaliswan under isal-e-sawab, relies on the general proofs for it and the practice of later scholars, and says treating these days as fard or wajib is wrong (English extract). Ja' al-Haqq also cites a report, from Anwar-e-Sati'ah, that the Prophet ﷺ gave charity on the 3rd, 7th and 40th day after Hamzah's martyrdom, and presents it as the origin of these days. That report has no known chain in the hadith collections, and mainstream Barelvi fatwas, such as Dawat-e-Islami's, rest the permission on general isal-e-sawab and custom rather than on it. They also forbid a feast in the first three days (Pin-6659). To be clear: their permission does not come from following the Prophet's ﷺ practice. He and his Companions did not hold gatherings on the 3rd, 10th or 40th day; the Barelvi view is that doing so is allowed, not that it is Sunnah.
Deobandi: same Hanafi fiqh, opposite conclusion. Because no Sunnah fixes a day, treating a day as fixed turns a custom into a religious rite, so they rule teeja, daswan, chaliswan and barsi a bid'ah (Kitab al-Nawazil 1/607; Deoband 1278/1434).
Shafi'i: that reciting Quran for the dead helps them comes from scholarly reasoning (Nawawi records it from al-Shafi'i's companions), not a direct hadith. Classical texts condemn the family's feast; on fixed-day gatherings Shafi'i scholars differ, and a widely cited answer calls fixing a day a bid'ah only if it is treated as required (SeekersGuidance).
Ahl al-Hadith: an act of worship needs a specific text from the Quran or authentic Sunnah, so anything without one, including fixed days and group khatam, is rejected (Fatawa 'Ilmiyyah 1/515). Ahkam o Masail describes qul, chehlum and Quran khwani as customs taken over from the Hindu environment of the subcontinent.
So, in short: the core acts (du'a, charity, paying debts, feeding the family) are Sunnah. Fixing days and holding feasts are local custom. Some scholars tolerate the custom; none of them say it is Sunnah.
Our advice: the 3rd, 10th and 40th-day gatherings are not the confirmed practice of the Prophet ﷺ and his Companions; scholars of the Barelvi tradition allow them. So do your own research, or play it safe and follow what is confirmed in the Sunnah: du'a, charity and paying their debts, on any day. That puts your time, energy and focus, and your wealth, where the reward is certain.
10. Video lectures
Stances were checked through each video's auto-captions and are summarised with timestamps; the Urdu captions are imperfect, so spot-listen before quoting. For the leading Barelvi position in writing, see Ja' al-Haqq in the section on the basis of each school.
| School | Speaker | Video | Language | Stance |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hanafi: Deobandi | Mufti Muawiya | Mayyat Ke Liye Teeja Chaliswan Karna Kaisa Hai | Urdu | Against: fixed days are sinful |
| Hanafi: Deobandi | Mufti Tariq Masood | Mayyat Ke Baad Teeja Chaliswa Karna Kya Jaiz Hai? | Urdu | Against: teeja and chaliswan have no shar'i status; make du'a and give sadaqah on any day (0:12) |
| Hanafi: Barelvi | Mufti Qasim Attari (Dar al-Ifta Ahl-e-Sunnat) | Esale Sawab Kay Liya Din Khas Krna Kaisa? | Urdu | Fixing a day for isal-e-sawab; his written fatwas permit it |
| Hanafi: Barelvi | Mufti Farooq Hussain Misbahi (minor voice; third-party upload) | Chaliswan Aur Teeja Ki Asal Haqiqat | Urdu | Permissible, at most mustahab; says plainly they are not fard, wajib or Sunnah, and the days are only customary scheduling (4:30, 24:00) |
| Ahl al-Hadith | Prof. Abdul Razzaq Sajid (third-party upload) | Teja, Satwan, Daswaan aur Chaliswan Krna Kia Durst Hai | Urdu | Against: no sahih hadith for qul, 7th, 10th or 40th; feasting from an estate with orphans' shares is forbidden (0:00, 2:00) |
| Shafi'i-leaning | Sh. Shady Alsuleiman | Reciting Quran For The Deceased | English | Recitation reaches the dead (majority view); not comfortable with gatherings or fixed days (11:40, 33:33, 43:00) |
| Salafi (Ahl al-Hadith-aligned) | Sh. Assim al-Hakeem (third-party re-upload) | Do the Dead Receive Reward from Quran Recitation? | English | In the clip: reciting at the grave has no basis from the Prophet ﷺ or the Sahabah; make du'a instead (0:00, 3:15). The uploader's description says otherwise, so go by the clip |
| Multi-view | Sh. Yasir Qadhi | Reciting Quran For a Deceased Person: Ask Shaykh YQ #117 | English | Covers several views |
Two Urdu clips (Misbahi, Sajid) are re-uploads by third-party channels. No dedicated English video was found on the Barelvi or Deobandi position, or on the Shafi'i ruling on food at the bereaved home.
11. Sources and caveats
Fatawa from urdufatwa.com, which is offline, are linked through archived copies on the Internet Archive. This is a research summary, not a fatwa. For a specific family situation, ask a mufti of your own school. Within each school individual muftis differ, especially on Shafi'i practice in South Asia versus the Arab world.
Deobandi: Deoband 1148/1429 · Deoband 1278/1434 · Deoband 135/1433 · Kitab al-Nawazil · Marghoob al-Fatawa · Banuri Town · Jamia Binoria · Jamia Mahmoodiyah · Imdad al-Fatawa (deoband.org)
Barelvi: Dawat-e-Islami: Isal-e-Sawab · Dawat-e-Islami: Qabr par Azan · Dar al-Ifta Ahl-e-Sunnat Pin-6659 · Pin-6195 · Condolence rulings
Shafi'i: SeekersGuidance: meals at the funeral · SeekersGuidance: gathering to recite · Darul Fatwa Australia: recitation and talqin
Ahl al-Hadith / Salafi: Fatawa Ilmiyyah via tohed · Amanpuri on talqin · Amanpuri on Quran khwani · Aap ke Masail vol. 1 (#91): food for the bereaved · Permanent Committee: recitation · Ibn Baz: condolence
Cross-school: IslamQA 220923 (four madhhabs on food) · SeekersGuidance: delaying burial · AskImam: freezer delay
Want the Hanbali and Ahl al-Hadith positions in more depth? Read Hanbali and Ahl al-Hadith views.